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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable          Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 96 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| They are Christians, which is what he just backed up.
And they do believe that Mary was the virgin mother. That is a huge belief with them. We've had this discussion before Xeo, remember? I've grown up in an area with a lot of Catholics, their core believes are the same. They believe in Jesus, in God, in the Saints, in Mary, and that Satan is real and very bad. The main difference is the Pope. (Last edited by Elara on 04-03-05 05:46 PM) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3749 days Last activity: 3655 days |
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| All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic. Catholicism is a branch from Christianity. Catholics belive that Mary was a virgin. Lutherans believe she wasn't. Yet both religions are considered to be Christian. | |||
Lord Vulkas Mormonus Vile High Xeodent of Xeomerica.  Since: 10-29-04 From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way Since last post: 192 days Last activity: 175 days |
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| Though realistically the pope had almost no effect on me, considering the fact that I am of a different religion, I think its too bad about his death. He did good things for all religions believing in Christ. | |||
Boondock Saint Paragoomba  Since: 08-31-04 From: Holiday Inn Since last post: 6843 days Last activity: 6367 days |
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| Im catholic so of course this is having a major role in my religion.
Too correct all of this confusion Catholicism was the very first Christian form of Religion, but when King Henery 7 (8) wanted a divorce but the church denied it and so in retaliation he broke away from the catholic church to start the avengelica (spelling) which the king was over the churchs , and from that christianity branched off over the many years. thus meaning if your a catholic your a christian not the other way around. As for the pope, even if your not religious in anyway i think you should admitt the world has lost a great role model/hero. He solved so many problems in his times beginning in WW2 when he was just a priest till present day matters dealing with Jeruselam. He raised many peoples spirits high as he traveled around the world. And even after the assassination attepmt on him and the parkensons you have to admire the mans determination to keep traveling and helping others. Thus making his deatha great loss to the world for me. |
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avatar of law Beezo  Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5552 days Last activity: 5552 days |
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| as i was driving away, i noticed at this skewl across the street from me had their flag half massed, and since i was in JROTC, i knew that someone had died. so i was like, i wonder who died, and i recall that the skewl was a catholic skewl lol... so yeah, duh... anyways, i also i was in santa ana and noticed that a post office's flag was also half massed =/ strange that it would be. then i also noticed that mcdonald's was too, but not burger king =/ i guess burger king still resents the pope for not allowing that one king to have a divorce lol... | |||
Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt  Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4341 days Last activity: 4335 days |
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| My father laughed at the pope dying, i dont know why, some stupid sh*t.
But i prayed that night about the situation, sending my condolencies and all that. I recommend christians to do the same thing. (Last edited by Elara on 04-05-05 08:47 PM) |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 96 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| I never knew that Lutherans didn't think that Mary was a virgin, especially since my mother was born and raised Lutheran and she firmly believes that Mary was a virgin. | |||
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Boondock Saint Paragoomba Since: 08-31-04 From: Holiday Inn Since last post: 6843 days Last activity: 6367 days |
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| I think thats only the bases of certian Lutheran religions, its sort of like Baptist with how many split off have came through them from little different belifes such as southern baptist, Im sure Lutherans branch off just as much through different beliefs as well. (Last edited by Boondock Saint on 04-05-05 10:42 PM) |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie!  Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 718 days Last activity: 718 days |
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| How did this go from my uncaring impending (and current) death of the Pope to a discussion on the basis of the larger religious sects?
Did I miss something along the way, or was this never to be touched on again because we want to move away from the morbid subject of death and into a heated debate on theological belief systems and deities? I'm confused, but feel free to carry on despite my dribble. |
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Pat Meth Paratroopa Since: 03-18-05 From: Keyes Since last post: 6875 days Last activity: 6870 days |
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Originally posted by Zabuza Well, the fact remains that death isn't very debatable, since if someone's dead they're dead. That discussion can only go so far, so now it's broadened. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 96 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| Lutherans are Lutherans, there is only one sect to my knowledge.
But yeah, should try to get back on topic... ... Um... he's dead. Yeah. |
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Katana Dark Wizard \"She said tonight...come on come on collide...see what I fire feels like..I bet its just like heaven.\"  Since: 08-15-04 From: Philadelphia, P.A. Since last post: 1339 days Last activity: 1156 days |
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| As far as the pope dying, yes I've been touched by it, but in a somber respectful way, if that makes sense. No I'm not dancing around that he's dead, nor am I crying about it. It's death and it's sad, sure, but there's nothing that I can do about it, now is there? So I do see Zabuza's points here, our opinions may differ sometimes, but I see where he's comming from and do agree with the whole empathetic attitude.
I'm having diffuculties accepting religion, so really I can't say I'm anything, not even agnostic or atheist, because I don't know what I want to believe or if I want to believe in anything...but we'll just say I'm Catholic for argument's sake, because I'm being raised Catholic. Anywho, point being, no matter what I am, I look at people as people, and religion (as well as other aspects that people start trouble over) is just part of them as people. So I'm not looking at the pope's death as Catholics have been. I respect the man for who he is and what he's done, the whole Catholicism just happens to play in there somewhere. So yeah, that's my input on the pope and religion, and why I feel that way...On a side note, when the pope actually died, it was April 2nd...the same day my step-dad George died, only the 2nd marked 5 years for George. |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 4858 days Last activity: 1168 days |
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| Kat...I know you really liked George, well, if he is the person I am thinking of you definitely did. And, well, I'm more sad about that than the pope, because I really didn't know the man or anyone around him, I know you, and I know how your life has been recently, and I really feel sorry about that. I'm just glad I can be here to help you through anything that comes up now!
And I understand where you are coming from with the whole religion part, I consider myself Athiest because I don't have any drawings towards the only faith I have ever known, so I choose not to believe in anything. The world in my eyes is here and now... |
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avatar of law Beezo Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5552 days Last activity: 5552 days |
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| yay, the new pope was a nazi, and stated that all those priests molesting boys thing was blown up by the media, and wasnt really that bad... off to a great start already! | |||
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Pat Meth Paratroopa Since: 03-18-05 From: Keyes Since last post: 6875 days Last activity: 6870 days |
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Originally posted by avatar of law yay, avatar of law has no fucking clue what he's talking about! off to a great start already! 1. The new Pope was not a Nazi. He never joiend the Nazi party. He was forced to join the Hitler Youth....not uncommon for a YOUTH living in GERMANY. The "council" (dunno if that's what they are) selected him, and obviously that was considered. What do you think he's going to do? "As my first as new pope, I'd like to instate a new policy: the Spanish Inquisition Part Two!!" 2. He never said that priests molesting boys wasn't that bad. He said that there weren't that many instances of it, and the whole thing was blown out of proportion. I'm not sure if it was blown out of proportion, but his point that less than 1% of priests were those offenders is a good thing to say...there are too many people going around out there thinking that all priests are little boy fondlers. So, get a clue, please. |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 718 days Last activity: 718 days |
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| Oh, get off it. No one (me) cares. We have a Pope. woo. (sarcasm) I'd be more surprised if they had said that the Vatican had been hording some kind of ultra-highspeed internet connection for years. For what purpose, who knows? (You know, those child-molesting priests and such.)
Although it is nice to see that you're informed, despite Avatar of Law, whom just bumped a thread with no real contribution to it. |
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Pat Meth Paratroopa Since: 03-18-05 From: Keyes Since last post: 6875 days Last activity: 6870 days |
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| I honestly have more important things to worry aboutt han the new Pope...in fact I sort of think it's annoying how everyone immediatly either accepts him (because HE'S THE POPE) or rejects him (because HE'S THE POPE). It just pisses me off to see people bitching about something they know nothing about. | |||
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1329 days Last activity: 1329 days |
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Originally posted by Zabuza Actually a bump is illegal if someone post in a thread was over two weeks... And as I see it, he just spam. The way I see it, he seem like a nightmare or something. And since he is from Germany give me a feeling that I do not wish to know about... I kinda hope that this new Pope doesn't declare war based on religious and such. It would be too scary to think about... Plus, take a look at him... He just creep me out. I hope he is a decent and a kind man through. (Please, forgive me God. Don't strike me with your heavenly thunder.) |
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Pat Meth Paratroopa Since: 03-18-05 From: Keyes Since last post: 6875 days Last activity: 6870 days |
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Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis The Pope can't declare war...he's the pope. WAIT! I think he can declare war for Vatican City. Now THAT would be entertaining. He'd have to challenge, like, Cyprus or something if he wanted any chance of winning. |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 718 days Last activity: 718 days |
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| Well, technically, if bumping a thread after two weeks of inactivity is against rules (and not the law, Beo) then my updating my stories every few weeks or so is a horrible no-no. I don't consider his post spam so much as a flame against a member we just don't have...the Pope.
My family is Catholic. I am not. They tried, but I actually have a brain and can think for myself rather than follow the herd. And, its true, the Pope wouldn't declare a war. I don't think he's allowed. But, then, I really don't care. Why we are such a god fearing planet without any proof of the existence of such a being, I'll never understand. |
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