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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 12:10 PM Link
Maybe i should have posted this in sunset waterfall, but oh well, my oponion needs to be stated on those religions and magic arts...

See my sister wanted to be a wiccan ( Dunno if i spelled that right) and it really disturbs me. People alreasy think lowly of her and if she just allows that religion to take controll of her, it will disturb me greatly...Not to mention she wants to lurn black magic as well as Tarot Cards. When we were at Barns and Nobles ( Bookstore) she was picking up these books like 'Wiccan for dummies' and 'the secret arts never before seen'. She looked at me and asked 'is this book great'? I Just shruged and told her that halff of these books are complete and utter bullshit. These are MANMADE religions and are not fucking real....

Im sorry if you believe in those religions, but in my oponion its just not right, why worship something negative like satan or res`noboshure? I just dont understand it people, whats wrong??
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 12:40 PM Link
I highly doubt your sister wants to do "black" magick. There is nothing negative about Wicca unless you want it to be negative. There is no Satan worshipping. And hell, if your sister wan't to learn about what paths there are for her, let her. Just because you chose a certain path, doesn't mean she'll choose the same one.
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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:06 PM Link
Originally posted by Belial
I highly doubt your sister wants to do "black" magick. There is nothing negative about Wicca unless you want it to be negative. There is no Satan worshipping. And hell, if your sister wan't to learn about what paths there are for her, let her. Just because you chose a certain path, doesn't mean she'll choose the same one.


Its not that, its just im highly dissappointed, I mean the fact that my sister is believing those 'Bullshit' books is enough dissappointed enough for me. I mean, i dont care if she wants to do that religion, its just that shes so...naive, shes so easily convinced on these 'stupid manmade religions'....I have friends that are wiccan, and i have full favor for them, but its my sister and I love her......I just wish people wouls stop tricking her with these bullshit facts and for them to just help her open her eyes and treat her right.
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:11 PM Link
And what are these "bullshit facts" that she's receiving? Not all books are full of B.S. and ALL religions and manmade.
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:20 PM Link
Read my earlier post again, then answer me correctly. You diddnt read all of it.

( God i hate it when ppl do that )
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:24 PM Link
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto
Read my earlier post again, then answer me correctly. You diddnt read all of it.

( God i hate it when ppl do that )


I did read the entire post, thank you very much. I just didn't reply to all of it.
Pat Meth

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Since: 03-18-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:33 PM Link
Saijin, it's all relative. You may think Wiccan is bullshit, but I'm sure many out there believe what you believe is bullshit. How old is your sister? This is probably just a phase; she's experimenting. Don't get so worked uip about something so trivial. IT's obvious you love your sister, but by limiting her to your biased and uninformed views is definitely hurting her more than it's helping her. You can bet Elara and Rogue will have plenty to say about this when they see it.

Also, it's difficult for people to answer you...when you haven't asked a question
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:41 PM Link
Goadmnit READ THIS!!!

I Just shruged and told her that halff of these books are complete and utter bullshit. These are MANMADE religions and are not fucking real....

HALF, NOT THE WHOLE DAMN THING!!!!!
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:44 PM Link
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto
Goadmnit READ THIS!!!

I Just shruged and told her that halff of these books are complete and utter bullshit. These are MANMADE religions and are not fucking real....

HALF, NOT THE WHOLE DAMN THING!!!!!


They are very real, whether you want to believe it or not. And with your opinion on Wicca, I would have to assume you wouldn't know which half of the books tell truth, the other lies.
Pat Meth

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Since: 03-18-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:45 PM Link
Okay...read this:

I'm sorry if you believe in those religions, but in my oponion its just not right...it really disturbs me

You may think only half the books are bullshit, but it looks like you thinkk the whole religion itself is 100% bullshit...so before you pop a blood vessel calm the hell down and stop bitching people out right after you lay your troubles on them.
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:46 PM Link
Maybe its the fact that i DONT WANT to belie the half, or the other half, either way, its a manmade religion, read the bible, or are you too interested in wicca to understand that?
Pat Meth

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Since: 03-18-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 01:51 PM Link
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto
Maybe its the fact that i DONT WANT to belie the half, or the other half, either way, its a manmade religion, read the bible, or are you too interested in wicca to understand that?



What the fuck? Nothing you say makes sense.

A. I know virtually nothing about Wiccan; I don't follow it.
B. Did you just admit you don't want to beleive it? THat makes you seem really ignorant.
C. All religions are manmade, not just wiccan
D. What does the bible have to do with this?

I'm getting the feeling you just made this thread so you could complain and impress your religious views on people....upset that not everyone agrees with you? Because then why did you stick it in the debate shrine?


(Last edited by Pat Meth on 05-30-05 04:52 PM)
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
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Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 02:14 PM Link
Hey, Sajin, here's some more reading. I'm not particularly happy about you badmouthing my mother's religion, so if I seem harsh here, too damn bad. Insulting a religion that brings no harm to anyone will piss me off.

I, unlike you, have done some reading. Not much, but enough to be able to tell that you clearly know almost nothing about Wicca. As I implied above, most (all that I've known) Wiccans do no intentional harm to others, for religious reasons or otherwise. It is probably out of fear that you feel the need to 'protect' her, yet what you fear, you do not understand - and that is why you fear it.

Also, get this: there is no one right religion! How do you like that? Perhaps Christianity is right for you, and perhaps Wicca is right for her. Oh-ho, but that goes against your beliefs, and we can't have that now can we?

In short, stop being an ignorant little twit, or do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.


(Last edited by Jedi Watchman Tamarin on 05-30-05 05:14 PM)
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Posted on 05-30-05 02:15 PM Link
Gentle people calm down, getting stressed just gives you high blood pressure.
and you shouldn't let your own beliefs affect what you say to other people... because you do not want to believe or understand it does not mean you should diswade her from understanding.
How old is your sister?
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 02:22 PM Link
Originally posted by Jedi Watchman Tamarin
Hey, Sajin, here's some more reading. I'm not particularly happy about you badmouthing my mother's religion, so if I seem harsh here, too damn bad. Insulting a religion that brings no harm to anyone will piss me off.

I, unlike you, have done some reading. Not much, but enough to be able to tell that you clearly know almost nothing about Wicca. As I implied above, most (all that I've known) Wiccans do no intentional harm to others, for religious reasons or otherwise. It is probably out of fear that you feel the need to 'protect' her, yet what you fear, you do not understand - and that is why you fear it.

Also, get this: there is no one right religion! How do you like that? Perhaps Christianity is right for you, and perhaps Wicca is right for her. Oh-ho, but that goes against your beliefs, and we can't have that now can we?

In short, stop being an ignorant little twit, or do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.


omg, you dont understand a word im saying. Jesus, do me a favor and let my oponions be heard, If you were reading what I posted earlier, she picked up books such as 'wiccan for dummies' as well as tarot cards you need to EARN, not buy. So if you call me a little twit, you sir are easily offfended, and I request this thread be turned off...
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 05-30-05 02:25 PM Link
Offended? No. Angered? Yes. You have spend most of this thread doing what is effectively bashing a religion that many follow.

Besides, how would bashing Wicca offend me if I'm not a Wiccan? Oh, but that doesn't make sense, why would I support a religion I don't follow?

Bah, I'm tired of reading your posts. Maybe a Block Posts option would be useful.
Jin

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Posted on 05-30-05 02:33 PM Link
It's okay Sajin. I feel the same way you do.. Just about Christianity.

I don't like seeing my friends and family waste their lives on a silly manmade religion targeted only at controlling and brainwashing..

But you will learn to let people make their own mistakes and hopefully learn from the over time.
Pat Meth

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Since: 03-18-05
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Posted on 05-30-05 02:35 PM Link
Let's get a mod in here double quick before this thread gets any stupider than it already is (though that seems improbable).
Xeoman

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Posted on 05-30-05 02:35 PM Link
I'm honestly very sick of the bashing on Christianity within this entire forum.

Even as somebody who never goes to church, does not pray, has a lack of faith, see's through the hipocritisism within the church itself, I am very sick of it.

But that's not the point and not why I'm posting in this thread.

Stop the flaming. Or this thread will be closed.

Edit: Forget it.


(Last edited by The Emperor on 05-30-05 05:36 PM)
Bitmap

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Posted on 05-30-05 02:36 PM Link
Oh my god, I knew I should have posted this in sunset, cause i knew people would have been offended.

If your mature, dont post nothing else and let this be closed, cause people LIKE YOU are offended. And stop whining, its just my fucking oponion on the idea, im not asking for whiney bitches to complain 'ohh, woe is me, youre making a mockery of my religion'. Well Boo fucking hoo, I dont care if you say my God is a fucking jackoff, I dont care its your oponion. So stop flaming twords me, and just leave it alone.
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